tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post2255111127026061547..comments2022-07-09T04:12:25.366-04:00Comments on Grey's Recovery : What about Moderation Management?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17667570305475181465noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-21909265814799108672017-02-18T19:18:20.635-05:002017-02-18T19:18:20.635-05:00Oh, thank you!
Oh, thank you!<br />Untipsyteacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14975521042875808241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-53053090082310322532017-02-18T14:49:39.752-05:002017-02-18T14:49:39.752-05:00That is a very good reason to stay sober. The reas...That is a very good reason to stay sober. The reason I don't drink no alcohol beer is the sight of a beer bottle in my hand frightens my family, even if it's non alcoholic. Not worth it. Moderate drinking has costs even if successful. Empty calories, it's expensive, again scaring loved ones. It's just not worth it for me, even if I knew I would succeed. Even moderate alcohol use has a strong correlation to many types of cancer and early onset dementia. If anyone asked I would advise them to never drink alcohol but as a clinician it's important that I respect my clients right to determine for themselves what risks is worth taking.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667570305475181465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-71106260110106865972017-02-18T02:07:20.775-05:002017-02-18T02:07:20.775-05:00I didn't know what I was planning when I went ...I didn't know what I was planning when I went sober 3 months ago. Like Anne says the longer I am sober the more I realise the negative impact alcohol played in our lives. There are more people to consider than me so staying sober is important right now :)<br />M :)Giving Up Drugs and Alcoholhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13581973427285667217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-56850587042674791342017-02-18T00:30:36.868-05:002017-02-18T00:30:36.868-05:00Moderation is tricky. some, likely most, can never...Moderation is tricky. some, likely most, can never sustain moderate (if they have been addicted) use and it pulls them back into unhealthy use. There will always be that risk which is one of the reasons after nine years of no intoxicants at all I'm simply not going to try. The main reason I don't try is I don't see the point of drinking moderately. If a night of drinking doesn't end up with people running naked in the street it seems quite dull. If I'm going to swallow empty calories I can find things that taste better than alcohol and that don't give me a hangover.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667570305475181465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-42810209346676221952017-02-18T00:22:29.462-05:002017-02-18T00:22:29.462-05:00Thanks Joe. I really miss you.Thanks Joe. I really miss you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667570305475181465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-66421432060625775532017-02-18T00:21:41.305-05:002017-02-18T00:21:41.305-05:00My point is it doesn't have to work at all. Su...My point is it doesn't have to work at all. Supporting a client with a moderation goal is an opportunity to engage the client before they are ready to attempt an abstinence goal. This has the potential to bring a client into recovery sooner and to greatly reduce its impact on the client's life. Some clients however will be successful, how many is anyone's guess.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667570305475181465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-76133062859468661222017-02-18T00:17:22.563-05:002017-02-18T00:17:22.563-05:00You are absolutely right. Most if not all people h...You are absolutely right. Most if not all people have tried some form of moderation before seeking help. The point of using moderation in counseling is not to replace abstinence programs but to add to them. Many people come to counseling because of pressure from loved ones or work or the law. Some of these people are not convinced they have a permanent substance use problems, and even if all of them are wrong (they aren't all wrong) meeting the clients where they are is a great way to forge a therapeutic relationship. The client wants to moderate so you the counselor throw yourself behind that goal and do your best to make it successful. If it's not successful you the counselor already have a relationship with the client. Because you and the client are both monitoring the progress the two of you will likely decided to switch before things get as bad as they would if the client attempted this on their own. I think we in the field will be surprised at the amount of people who find some kind of success with this. Many alcoholics who are successful at moderation often end up not drinking anyway, it's just too much work. As I often say in groups I personally have no desire to drink moderately. I want to drink excessively with no consequences. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667570305475181465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-91213941336987878422017-02-17T21:43:57.122-05:002017-02-17T21:43:57.122-05:00Could it be that moderation works best with people...Could it be that moderation works best with people who are heavy drinkers, but not alcoholics?<br /><br />xo<br />Wendy<br />Untipsyteacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14975521042875808241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-26327024764525646842017-02-17T15:14:10.894-05:002017-02-17T15:14:10.894-05:00By the time people look for help I think they have...By the time people look for help I think they have all attempted moderation in many forms.<br />And it is probably a reasonable thing to set out criteria and see if it makes sense.<br />I understand MM often starts with a 30 day abstenance. That alone is an eye opener for most people. <br /><br />I never expected to choose long term sobriety. I decided a year off would be a big enough challenge to force me to take what felt like an insane compulsion and get it under control.<br /><br />It wasn't easy. and very quickly I could see how negatively alcohol was impacting my life.<br /><br />Over 3 years later I don't question it. I don't drink. I plan to never drink again. I love my life too much to risk one minute of it.<br /><br />Ainsobrietyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15642935819165465190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-7870895387254120932017-02-16T22:58:12.284-05:002017-02-16T22:58:12.284-05:00Great piece Ken. Thought provoking and insightful...Great piece Ken. Thought provoking and insightful. Good to hear from you. Be well my friend.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16946413043199777513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-289046520973159397.post-86959256459421058692017-02-16T20:01:07.920-05:002017-02-16T20:01:07.920-05:00Hi Ken
I can almost see this guy you are working ...Hi Ken<br /><br />I can almost see this guy you are working with. The story is really cool. He sounds like a good, hardworking person, trying to the right thing - probably like a lot of us but there is something simple and lovely in the narrative.<br /><br />I have reached 101 days now and I don't know what the future holds but one thing stood out to me reading this.<br /><br />Somewhere in this post under 2) something hit me. We do need to sometime being sober so we can learn the skills that we have never learned. Coping with anxiety and facing our demons. Some more than others have hidden behind the bottle for decades. Who is to say that once we have done that work, learned those skills, we can't try to moderate? I am far off that when it comes to alcohol but I am not everyone.<br /><br />If we learn the lessons, why do we have to tell ourselves that it is all in the hands of a higher power. We are powerless. Perhaps we are. But what if we learn a whole bunch of skills and CAN somehow have that cold beer on a hot summer's day....?<br />Michelle Giving Up Drugs and Alcoholhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13581973427285667217noreply@blogger.com